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Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values

From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>

Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:48:57 -0500

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"JCORVETTE 72&75" <jcorvette(at)webtv.net> wrote in message =

news:9864-41A49FF7-266(at)storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...

imo

its all about what ppl are willing to pay.

i prefer older vettes i can work on without a degree in computer

science.

sure the new models are fast and efficient

but they just dont have the appeal of older vettes like the c3`s

i cant get c4 and c5 owners to wave back

some do not but not like c3 owners and c2 owners

whats up with that.



Allot depends on where you live, I have no problem getting the C3, C4, =

C5, and now the C6 owners to wave, seldom if ever see a C2 anymore. The =

C3 is the one to work on, it`s one of the only new Corvettes that I =

would not take deliver on when it came in, pure 70`s junk. The only one =

worse was the `63 & `64 I had, didn`t get another one until `92, didn`t =

want any more of the poor quality but got the C4 flexible flyer anyhow. =

Now that most have been reworked to an acceptable condition the C3 will =

always be the style of choice. Never have figured out what the C2 has, =

minimum years produced I guess. Even GM knew they had to get rid of that =

icon before they lost the whole Corvette line. Of course they did come =

allot closer to killing the Corvette with the C4, in 5 years they took =

production of 51,547 all the way down to less than 50% even after adding =

the convertible and the car with the bass boat motor to boost sales.=20



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Dad

05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51

72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

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From: "BDragon" <theCRAZYdoc47(at)charter.net>

Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:03:46 -0800

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"Mike Ellison" <mikeellison3(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:41A14583.1020403(at)yahoo.com...

> Bob G wrote:

> > On 18 Nov 2004 20:23:29 -0800, rebco10(at)aol.com (Ralph) wrote:

> >

> >

> >>I am not complaining. I just do not get it.

> >>

> >>I have a c4 ,my second. I love the body of a 1980-82 c3. But I do

> >>not see how my car is on ebay and bidding around 17-18grand with 19000

> >>documented miles and you have automatic late c3 cars for 15 grand.

> >>

> >>Aside from being more difficult to get in, I do not see a comparison

> >>between a 81 C3 corvette with 60 - 80 thousand miles and a 1996 c4 lt4

> >>6spd.

> >>

> >>So enlighten me...... without being insulting.

> >>

> >>Thanks

> >

> > ===========================

> > I would never Insult another Corvette NUT...

> >

> > But I own a 95 black on black 6 sp with both tops...And I also own

> > 64 72 76 & 79 Corvettes.... all were in shows this summer so they are

> > all in damn good shape... The 79 is an Automatic the others are all

> > Manuel...

> >

> > NOW.... The 95 is NOT repeat NOT the car I take out to have fun in..No

> > question it gets up and goes, but it lacks any mechanical feeling...by

> > which it really does not "feel" like a machine....at least when

> > compared to my sharks...It also almost never turns a head...whereas

> > any of my sharks turn a lot of heads...

> >

> > When comparing performance...well the 95 is at or near the top...when

> > comparing fuel mileage it is absolutely at the top ..by a wide

> > margin...BUT truthfully the 95 is nowhere near as much fun to drive

> > the hell out of on the back roads....

> >

> > When you come to Value...well the 95 is most likely worth a little

> > more then my 79 and my 76 at this time...it is depreciating...the 76

> > is just starting to appreciate and the 79 is flat..holding its own...

> >

> > Insurance for the 64 72 76 & 79 (total of all 4) is just slightly more

> > then what I pay for the 95 alone... Tags for the 95 cost me 70 bucks a

> > year..(Vanity.. IO NO 1)! the other (all with Historic tags) cost me

> > under 20 bucks each...

> >

> > Now I also turn my own wrenches....and honestly the 95 is not that

> > difficult (computer not included) but all of the others are simple and

> > easy cars to work on... and parts are generally cheaper also...

> >

> > Guess it boils down to the fact that I really enjoy being in a machine

> > and not just riding ....can not explain it really.. but my excuse the

> > French...ASS feels the difference and I smile a lot more driving the

> > older one....BUT NONE are 1/2 the car the 95 is...and that 95 is not

> > 1/2 the car a C5 is................

> >

> > Bob Griffiths

> > 68 SS 396 Heeled

> > 64 & 72 Corvette Rag tops

> > 76 79 & 95 Corvette Coupes...

> >

> > None for sale...getting an itch to add a C5 to the fleet...which will

> > fill up the garages...

>

> Maybe this will help.

>

> I bought my `79 in 1987 for $7,800. Sold it in 1994 for $ 4,000. Clean

> today it would bring $8K to $10K. Well manicured, $ 11-14K.

>

> Bob has the advantage of everyday comparisons that a fine stable of iron

> provides but he is searching for the descriptor I call, "raw automobile."

>

> There will always be a market for good-looking raw automobiles--we call

> these "classics." They are great on the street and on sweeping back

> roads. Gov. Arnold has signed the bill that lifts smog regs from early

> & mid C3s and that will give these cars a further $$ boost.

>

> I don`t view the C3 (or C4) as a proper weapon for our tight mountain

> roads--the C5 (and most likely the C6) is the better "driving

> instrument" for that job.

>

> C4s do a lot of jobs much better than C3s but in each of those qualities

> they are overshadowed by the C5 -- Dad might say, "eclipsed." This

> factor will probably keep C4 prices depressed and most C4s will follow a

> faster path to salvage than will C3s. Left will be a few collector`s

> C4s. With some low mileage C5s approching $20K I`m getting very

"tempted."

>

> Mike

> `89 Coupe owner, occasional C5 rentor

>

You mention that the Gov. lifted smog restrictions on some early and mid

C3`s, but didn`t he also freeze it at a certain year, like 1977? I`ve been

trying to find a copy of that law if you know where I can locate it. I have

a 1977, and I`ve been waiting for it to clear regulations, but if it was

frozen at that year, it will never have the regulations lifted. I`d like to

read what that law says if you know how to find it.










From: Unklegrizzley(at)webtv.net (D R)

Subject: I finally bought it ! now a question concerning stereo system

Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:08:50 -0500

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Hi folks, I had posted some time back with questions for advice on buyig

first vette,,,thanks to all who gave good advice. I finally found what I

had always thought I wanted,,,78 model. Now,,who has great ideas on

installing CD/stereo without butchering the dash, or perhaps someone

could tell me where to buy another mounting plate that I can butcher

and then I can keep the origanal put away,,,Thanks to all,,,Dan





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