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Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
From: jcorvette(at)webtv.net (JCORVETTE 72&75)
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:51:35 -0600
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imo
its all about what ppl are willing to pay.
i prefer older vettes i can work on without a degree in computer
science.
sure the new models are fast and efficient
but they just dont have the appeal of older vettes like the c3`s
i cant get c4 and c5 owners to wave back
some do not but not like c3 owners and c2 owners
whats up with that.
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From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:48:57 -0500
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"JCORVETTE 72&75" <jcorvette(at)webtv.net> wrote in message =
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imo
its all about what ppl are willing to pay.
i prefer older vettes i can work on without a degree in computer
science.
sure the new models are fast and efficient
but they just dont have the appeal of older vettes like the c3`s
i cant get c4 and c5 owners to wave back
some do not but not like c3 owners and c2 owners
whats up with that.
Allot depends on where you live, I have no problem getting the C3, C4, =
C5, and now the C6 owners to wave, seldom if ever see a C2 anymore. The =
C3 is the one to work on, it`s one of the only new Corvettes that I =
would not take deliver on when it came in, pure 70`s junk. The only one =
worse was the `63 & `64 I had, didn`t get another one until `92, didn`t =
want any more of the poor quality but got the C4 flexible flyer anyhow. =
Now that most have been reworked to an acceptable condition the C3 will =
always be the style of choice. Never have figured out what the C2 has, =
minimum years produced I guess. Even GM knew they had to get rid of that =
icon before they lost the whole Corvette line. Of course they did come =
allot closer to killing the Corvette with the C4, in 5 years they took =
production of 51,547 all the way down to less than 50% even after adding =
the convertible and the car with the bass boat motor to boost sales.=20
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Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
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what ppl are willing to pay.<BR>i prefer older vettes i can work on =
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ever see a C2 anymore. The C3 is the one to work on, it`s one of the =
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Corvettes that I would not take deliver on when it came in, pure 70`s =
junk. The=20
only one worse was the `63 & `64 I had, didn`t get another one =
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`92, didn`t want any more of the poor quality but got the C4 flexible=20
flyer anyhow. Now that most have been reworked to an acceptable =
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has, minimum years produced I guess. Even GM knew they had to get rid of =
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From: "BDragon" <theCRAZYdoc47(at)charter.net>
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 02:03:46 -0800
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"Mike Ellison" <mikeellison3(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob G wrote:
> > On 18 Nov 2004 20:23:29 -0800, rebco10(at)aol.com (Ralph) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am not complaining. I just do not get it.
> >>
> >>I have a c4 ,my second. I love the body of a 1980-82 c3. But I do
> >>not see how my car is on ebay and bidding around 17-18grand with 19000
> >>documented miles and you have automatic late c3 cars for 15 grand.
> >>
> >>Aside from being more difficult to get in, I do not see a comparison
> >>between a 81 C3 corvette with 60 - 80 thousand miles and a 1996 c4 lt4
> >>6spd.
> >>
> >>So enlighten me...... without being insulting.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >
> > ===========================
> > I would never Insult another Corvette NUT...
> >
> > But I own a 95 black on black 6 sp with both tops...And I also own
> > 64 72 76 & 79 Corvettes.... all were in shows this summer so they are
> > all in damn good shape... The 79 is an Automatic the others are all
> > Manuel...
> >
> > NOW.... The 95 is NOT repeat NOT the car I take out to have fun in..No
> > question it gets up and goes, but it lacks any mechanical feeling...by
> > which it really does not "feel" like a machine....at least when
> > compared to my sharks...It also almost never turns a head...whereas
> > any of my sharks turn a lot of heads...
> >
> > When comparing performance...well the 95 is at or near the top...when
> > comparing fuel mileage it is absolutely at the top ..by a wide
> > margin...BUT truthfully the 95 is nowhere near as much fun to drive
> > the hell out of on the back roads....
> >
> > When you come to Value...well the 95 is most likely worth a little
> > more then my 79 and my 76 at this time...it is depreciating...the 76
> > is just starting to appreciate and the 79 is flat..holding its own...
> >
> > Insurance for the 64 72 76 & 79 (total of all 4) is just slightly more
> > then what I pay for the 95 alone... Tags for the 95 cost me 70 bucks a
> > year..(Vanity.. IO NO 1)! the other (all with Historic tags) cost me
> > under 20 bucks each...
> >
> > Now I also turn my own wrenches....and honestly the 95 is not that
> > difficult (computer not included) but all of the others are simple and
> > easy cars to work on... and parts are generally cheaper also...
> >
> > Guess it boils down to the fact that I really enjoy being in a machine
> > and not just riding ....can not explain it really.. but my excuse the
> > French...ASS feels the difference and I smile a lot more driving the
> > older one....BUT NONE are 1/2 the car the 95 is...and that 95 is not
> > 1/2 the car a C5 is................
> >
> > Bob Griffiths
> > 68 SS 396 Heeled
> > 64 & 72 Corvette Rag tops
> > 76 79 & 95 Corvette Coupes...
> >
> > None for sale...getting an itch to add a C5 to the fleet...which will
> > fill up the garages...
>
> Maybe this will help.
>
> I bought my `79 in 1987 for $7,800. Sold it in 1994 for $ 4,000. Clean
> today it would bring $8K to $10K. Well manicured, $ 11-14K.
>
> Bob has the advantage of everyday comparisons that a fine stable of iron
> provides but he is searching for the descriptor I call, "raw automobile."
>
> There will always be a market for good-looking raw automobiles--we call
> these "classics." They are great on the street and on sweeping back
> roads. Gov. Arnold has signed the bill that lifts smog regs from early
> & mid C3s and that will give these cars a further $$ boost.
>
> I don`t view the C3 (or C4) as a proper weapon for our tight mountain
> roads--the C5 (and most likely the C6) is the better "driving
> instrument" for that job.
>
> C4s do a lot of jobs much better than C3s but in each of those qualities
> they are overshadowed by the C5 -- Dad might say, "eclipsed." This
> factor will probably keep C4 prices depressed and most C4s will follow a
> faster path to salvage than will C3s. Left will be a few collector`s
> C4s. With some low mileage C5s approching $20K I`m getting very
"tempted."
>
> Mike
> `89 Coupe owner, occasional C5 rentor
>
You mention that the Gov. lifted smog restrictions on some early and mid
C3`s, but didn`t he also freeze it at a certain year, like 1977? I`ve been
trying to find a copy of that law if you know where I can locate it. I have
a 1977, and I`ve been waiting for it to clear regulations, but if it was
frozen at that year, it will never have the regulations lifted. I`d like to
read what that law says if you know how to find it.
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