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Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
From: WayneC <WayneC(at)linkline.moc>
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:34:05 -0800
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Ralph wrote:
> I am not complaining. I just do not get it.
>
> I have a c4 ,my second. I love the body of a 1980-82 c3. But I do
> not see how my car is on ebay and bidding around 17-18grand with 19000
> documented miles and you have automatic late c3 cars for 15 grand.
>
> Aside from being more difficult to get in, I do not see a comparison
> between a 81 C3 corvette with 60 - 80 thousand miles and a 1996 c4 lt4
> 6spd.
>
> So enlighten me...... without being insulting.
>
> Thanks
You must REALLY be upset with C2`s going for $30k to $50k then!
Supply and demand, mixed with a little nostalgia, what else?
From: "Buhda" <akhanna(at)houston.rr.com>
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:24:21 GMT
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the C-4 in my opinion do not look as attractive as the C3. People are not
buying these cars for "everyday use" though the may get used
everyday....sounds like that doesn;t make sense. What I mean is most people
buying these cars buy them for the LOOK that they like NOT whether they can
throw the kids and wife in and go out to dinner.
Also lot more of the C-4 around than the C-3 thus higher value for the C-3
"Ralph" <rebco10(at)aol.com> wrote in message
news:4d1833eb.0411182023.2b829ecd(at)posting.google.com...
>I am not complaining. I just do not get it.
>
> I have a c4 ,my second. I love the body of a 1980-82 c3. But I do
> not see how my car is on ebay and bidding around 17-18grand with 19000
> documented miles and you have automatic late c3 cars for 15 grand.
>
> Aside from being more difficult to get in, I do not see a comparison
> between a 81 C3 corvette with 60 - 80 thousand miles and a 1996 c4 lt4
> 6spd.
>
> So enlighten me...... without being insulting.
>
> Thanks
From: "Tom in Missouri" <toomuch(at)spam.com>
Subject: Re: I dont get the c3 vs c4 values
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:37:34 GMT
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First off, eBay prices can be a bit crazy at times. Remember the what was
it, $700 Owners Manual for a 1967?
But overall, they give a reasonable picture of prices, if you average
several of the same basic condition.
Most late C3s I`ve seen have been averaging around $10,000. Sure you may
get a low mile immaculate `78 Pace Car or someone has a restored `82 CE in
the mid to high teens, but most are lower.
Corvettes have never been about practical. People buy them because of
emotion, and emotion does not follow blue books or NADA guides or whatever.
After all, what sense is it to pay $65,000 for a `66 big block that any C5
can blow away and you can buy for $40,000 or less? Any C4 on a stretch of
twisty country roads will run off and hide from it. Yet, do you see people
paying $65,000 for a restored `89 or `94? Maybe for 4 of them.
People buy them for memories. In the `70s, the `63 began an incredible
climb, from an average street price of $1800 around 1972 to around $15,000
by 1978. Why? Part of it was that those who were 10 and 12 in 1963 and
fell in love with it were in their twenties, had decent paying jobs, and
could buy their fantasy now. And they did.
Why did the `67 435 hp go nuts? Because many who had always wanted one were
rich enough to have them in the `80s, and they bought them. And with the
rise, many "experts" told how these were "investments" so many more jumped
in on it and prices went higher.
If these had been stocks, the FTC would have been involved for stock
manipulation, because the "experts" were really hyping their stock to get
others to buy them and make outrageous profits.
And if you had ever owned a 435 hp, you`d know they are a high maintenance
item and are not a really great car for what most of us like to do - drive
around. They are great at the stop light and the gas station, where they
help dent the National Debt, but if you want to have a good time cruising
around or weekend drives, any small block is much better and the 390 hp is
better still.
This is also why Corvette Price Guides are something you can only take as a
reference, and not as carved in stone, because the true price of any
Corvette is how much someone is willing to hand over at that moment.
"Ralph" <rebco10(at)aol.com> wrote in message
news:4d1833eb.0411182023.2b829ecd(at)posting.google.com...
> I am not complaining. I just do not get it.
>
> I have a c4 ,my second. I love the body of a 1980-82 c3. But I do
> not see how my car is on ebay and bidding around 17-18grand with 19000
> documented miles and you have automatic late c3 cars for 15 grand.
>
> Aside from being more difficult to get in, I do not see a comparison
> between a 81 C3 corvette with 60 - 80 thousand miles and a 1996 c4 lt4
> 6spd.
>
> So enlighten me...... without being insulting.
>
> Thanks
Last "Cars" Post on Wordpress:
Title: Jaguar 1922 - 2009 - Always a great looking car
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:47:52 +0000
Author: sorrentolens
 The Jaguar Badge Founded as the Swallow Sidecar Company in 1922, by two motorcycle enthusiasts, Sir William Lyons and William Walmsley, the SS Jaguar name first appeared on a 2.5 litre saloon in 1935, sports models of which were the SS 90 and SS 100. The Jaguar name was given to the entire company in 1945 when the SS was dropped due to lack of popularity from WWII.
Jaguar made its name in the 1950s with a series of elegantly-styled sports cars and luxury saloons. In 1951 the company leased what would quickly become its principal plant from the Daimler Motor Company (not to be confused with Daimler-Benz), and in 1960 purchased Daimler from its parent company, the Birmingham Small Arms Company (BSA). From the late 1960s, Daimler was used as a brand name for Jaguar’s most luxurious saloons.
Jaguar merged with the British Motor Corporation (BMC), the Austin-Morris combine, to form British Motor Holdings (BMH) in 1966. After merging with Leyland, which had already taken over Rover and Standard Triumph, the resultant company then became the British Leyland Motor Corporation (BLMC) in 1968. Financial difficulties and the publication of the Ryder Report led to effective nationalization in 1975 and the company became British Leyland, Ltd. (later simply BL plc).
In the 1970s the Jaguar and Daimler marques formed part of BL’s specialist car division or Jaguar Rover Triumph Ltd until a restructure in the early 1980s saw most of the BL volume car manufacturing side becoming the Austin Rover Group within which Jaguar was not included. In 1984, Jaguar was floated off as a separate company on the stock market — one of the Thatcher government’s many privatizations.
More on: http://sorrentolens.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/jaguar-1922-2009-always-a-great-looking-car/
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Title: Jaguar 1922 - 2009 - Always a great looking car Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:47:52 +0000 Author: sorrentolens The Jaguar Badge Founded as the Swallow Sidecar Company in 1922, by two motorcycle enthusiasts, Sir William Lyons and William Walmsley, the SS Jaguar name first appeared on a 2.5 litre saloon in 1935, sports models of which were the SS 90 and SS 100. The Jaguar name was given to the entire company in 1945 when the SS was dropped due to lack of popularity from WWII.
Jaguar made its name in the 1950s with a series of elegantly-styled sports cars and luxury saloons. In 1951 the company leased what would quickly become its principal plant from the Daimler Motor Company (not to be confused with Daimler-Benz), and in 1960 purchased Daimler from its parent company, the Birmingham Small Arms Company (BSA). From the late 1960s, Daimler was used as a brand name for Jaguar’s most luxurious saloons.
Jaguar merged with the British Motor Corporation (BMC), the Austin-Morris combine, to form British Motor Holdings (BMH) in 1966. After merging with Leyland, which had already taken over Rover and Standard Triumph, the resultant company then became the British Leyland Motor Corporation (BLMC) in 1968. Financial difficulties and the publication of the Ryder Report led to effective nationalization in 1975 and the company became British Leyland, Ltd. (later simply BL plc).
In the 1970s the Jaguar and Daimler marques formed part of BL’s specialist car division or Jaguar Rover Triumph Ltd until a restructure in the early 1980s saw most of the BL volume car manufacturing side becoming the Austin Rover Group within which Jaguar was not included. In 1984, Jaguar was floated off as a separate company on the stock market — one of the Thatcher government’s many privatizations.
More on: http://sorrentolens.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/jaguar-1922-2009-always-a-great-looking-car/
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